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New Rear Revalved Shock I just wonder

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Post icon  Posted 18 April 2009 - 11:19 AM

I installed a TCS reear revalved double rate shock on my kwad and when i was done I let it sit alone and it was too low for me since I ride desert. so I decided to adjust the shock to get a higher ride but when I did that it made my shock way stiffer than the stock one and since I was just ridding it around my block going through speed bumps and some rocky hills around my house. I went to my mechanic and he told me to go for a trail ride so the oil in the shock could heat up a bit and then shock will start woking right (as in felling it softer) but since I cant go riding this weekend Im gonna find out till next. and he told me that since I was riding it on the street I was going to feel the shock stiffer and that if he keep on adjusting it to softer that when the oil started doing its softness magic it would too soft. (sight) So after my whole autobiography here comes the million dollars questions. Is that true what my mechanic told me about the oil? and Should I start moving the shock back the way it was? or What should I do? any suggestions are very well thanked for and very appreciated. Thx in advanced.
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 11:53 AM

View Postz400baja_racer, on Apr 18 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

I installed a TCS reear revalved double rate shock on my kwad and when i was done I let it sit alone and it was too low for me since I ride desert. so I decided to adjust the shock to get a higher ride but when I did that it made my shock way stiffer than the stock one and since I was just ridding it around my block going through speed bumps and some rocky hills around my house. I went to my mechanic and he told me to go for a trail ride so the oil in the shock could heat up a bit and then shock will start woking right (as in felling it softer) but since I cant go riding this weekend Im gonna find out till next. and he told me that since I was riding it on the street I was going to feel the shock stiffer and that if he keep on adjusting it to softer that when the oil started doing its softness magic it would too soft. (sight) So after my whole autobiography here comes the million dollars questions. Is that true what my mechanic told me about the oil? and Should I start moving the shock back the way it was? or What should I do? any suggestions are very well thanked for and very appreciated. Thx in advanced.


There is your problem right there. A Dual rate rear shock done by TCS was designed for a lowered right height. It's called a ZPS set-up by TCS and was meant for MX applications.

What you need is a standard right height configuration, which would be a Sport Series shock done by TCS.

What you are doing it incressing the preload on the spring, and making the shock stiffer than it should be. You will not solve your problem like this.

The correct solution for you would be to send that shock in, and have it re-sprung to a standard right height configuration. It will also need to be re-valved, when you eliminate the ZPS springs.

TCS is no longer in business. They were purchased by RaceTech over a year ago. So your options are to send it to RaceTech or Custom Axis. They are both doing stock shock conversions for me. RaceTech would be the better choice since Axis uses it's own valving stacks. (they would have to replace what you have completely).

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 12:58 PM

View Postrivermobster, on Apr 18 2009, 12:53 PM, said:

View Postz400baja_racer, on Apr 18 2009, 12:19 PM, said:

I installed a TCS reear revalved double rate shock on my kwad and when i was done I let it sit alone and it was too low for me since I ride desert. so I decided to adjust the shock to get a higher ride but when I did that it made my shock way stiffer than the stock one and since I was just ridding it around my block going through speed bumps and some rocky hills around my house. I went to my mechanic and he told me to go for a trail ride so the oil in the shock could heat up a bit and then shock will start woking right (as in felling it softer) but since I cant go riding this weekend Im gonna find out till next. and he told me that since I was riding it on the street I was going to feel the shock stiffer and that if he keep on adjusting it to softer that when the oil started doing its softness magic it would too soft. (sight) So after my whole autobiography here comes the million dollars questions. Is that true what my mechanic told me about the oil? and Should I start moving the shock back the way it was? or What should I do? any suggestions are very well thanked for and very appreciated. Thx in advanced.


There is your problem right there. A Dual rate rear shock done by TCS was designed for a lowered right height. It's called a ZPS set-up by TCS and was meant for MX applications.

What you need is a standard right height configuration, which would be a Sport Series shock done by TCS.

What you are doing it incressing the preload on the spring, and making the shock stiffer than it should be. You will not solve your problem like this.

The correct solution for you would be to send that shock in, and have it re-sprung to a standard right height configuration. It will also need to be re-valved, when you eliminate the ZPS springs.

TCS is no longer in business. They were purchased by RaceTech over a year ago. So your options are to send it to RaceTech or Custom Axis. They are both doing stock shock conversions for me. RaceTech would be the better choice since Axis uses it's own valving stacks. (they would have to replace what you have completely).

Hope this helps!

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Well I bought off of ebay and the seller told me it had a xc set up and do you know how much would it cost me to get done what you just mention
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Posted 18 April 2009 - 02:22 PM

There is no way to know, until RaceTech has it apart. If I had to guess, you'll be around $300 or so with parts, shipping and labor. You'll need a re-valve and re-spring minimum. Hopefully the rest of the shock is ok.

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Posted 18 April 2009 - 05:00 PM

I had my rear shock redone at Axis it was the best thing ever!!
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Posted 19 April 2009 - 11:04 PM

View PostDSDAD, on Apr 18 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I had my rear shock redone at Axis it was the best thing ever!!

what did you have your done and around how much?
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Posted 20 April 2009 - 10:19 AM

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View PostDSDAD, on Apr 18 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I had my rear shock redone at Axis it was the best thing ever!!

what did you have your done and around how much?



You dont wanna send yours to Axis bro, it will cost you too much! You already have a TCS valve stack in your shock, so all they will have to do is revalve it at RaceTech. Axis will want to replace your valve stack, and that will just add to the cost!

Your situation is completely different that Jer's.

IF you did decide to send your shock to Axis to be reworked, you will spend at least $400. RaceTech will most likely be less. It will cost more to go with Axis, but it is a much better conversion. The choice is yours!
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Posted 20 April 2009 - 05:24 PM

View Postz400baja_racer, on Apr 20 2009, 12:04 AM, said:

View PostDSDAD, on Apr 18 2009, 06:00 PM, said:

I had my rear shock redone at Axis it was the best thing ever!!

what did you have your done and around how much?


Listen to Joe he know's what he is talking about!

Mine was Stock they did new spring and a total rebuild. I also bought new front shocks they are so nice the ride is great!! I do not remember the total cost but it was well worth it!!
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Posted 20 April 2009 - 09:45 PM

well thx for all your help!
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Posted 20 April 2009 - 09:56 PM

Anytime bro. Good luck!
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